Real Men
- Jul. 10th, 2006 at 12:14 AM
Has anybody seen http://www.fastseduction.com/ ? The men that patronize this site and buy the books and services advertised there . . . well, I have no understanding of them. The people responsible for this site must leave trails behind them like slugs wherever they walk. Everything in a man's interaction with a woman, for them, is focused on getting laid, laid, laid. There's a little valid pop psychology there that has to do with interacting favorably with ANYONE, but anything noble is drowned out by the trumpet call of "get her into bed TONIGHT!"
Much more respectable are books like The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene and The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida.
I already own the Greene book, which is scrupulously researched and respectfully written, and which uses hundreds of anecdotes from 2500 years of European and Asian literature to make its points. You will not find the phrase "how to get laid" in it anywhere, and it seems equally useful to men and women. It does however, have the annoying habit of referring to the one you lust after as the "victim."
Not farther down the spectrum, but more of at an angle to it, is the Deida book, which reads a little like a collaboration between Robert Bly and Deepak Chopra. I bought this one today, just speculating. It also is written in a very respectful tone, but I don't completely trust any book with chapter titles like "Ejaculate Up the Spine."
Much more respectable are books like The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene and The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida.
I already own the Greene book, which is scrupulously researched and respectfully written, and which uses hundreds of anecdotes from 2500 years of European and Asian literature to make its points. You will not find the phrase "how to get laid" in it anywhere, and it seems equally useful to men and women. It does however, have the annoying habit of referring to the one you lust after as the "victim."
Not farther down the spectrum, but more of at an angle to it, is the Deida book, which reads a little like a collaboration between Robert Bly and Deepak Chopra. I bought this one today, just speculating. It also is written in a very respectful tone, but I don't completely trust any book with chapter titles like "Ejaculate Up the Spine."

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Awesome. For that reason alone, I thumbs-up this post.
Double-yoo. Tee. Eff.
As for books that either help you get laid or just help you find a partner, I never put much stock in such things. I think that the kind of personality that the people who buy those books are looking for is not something that can be learned. It's something you either have or you don't have.
The biggest thing is the ability to read people. You can't necessarily teach someone how to pick up on those subtle but important cues. And picking up on those cues are the biggest part of "getting laid". (Or just getting a date.)
So, I generally believe that most of those books are a rather large waste of money.
If you don't love 'em, don't kiss 'em during sex!
Well whiskey tango foxtrot, my son. Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
Anyways, I'm not surprised that there are shitty and superior dating/seduction advice for men, cause it exists for women as well. Hello, The Rules anyone? I'm sure there are some decent books for men out there, it just depends on the focus and the goal -- if you want to just bang a chick, then go to the website. If you honestly want something, try one of these books.
Oh, and ejaculate up the spine. Hehehehehehe
I think the fact that these books exist and that there are people out there who take them seriously may well be proof that hey, we may still need feminism... and that some dudes need some serious deprogramming-type education about gender relations. Hey! Fellas! Women = people!
Yes, and the book I linked to is the reason we still need masculism.
Even if the books are respectful, it's still a tad silly in general.
The sort of men who need these books
"According to Vedic tradition this energy circulation is interrupted by ejaculation and the practitioners of kundalini yoga strive to redirect the ejaculate up the spine rather than out of the circuit as would happen with regular ejaculation."-http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/t
"I’m also practising something which helps you ejaculate up the spine-just what am I talking about-okay here’s the deal when you have an orgasm you waste precious life force and that can leave you feeling depleted and out of energy. There is an art to having an orgasm where instead of wasting your life force and feeling all zoned out, you can actually have an orgasm that nourishes and replenishes your body, not only is this healthy but it’s been recommended in various mystical traditions think Kama Sutra ya’ll. Do you think it’s just a display of different sexual positions-No it’s a meditative practise that opens your body to the moment allowing you to become and instrument of divine revelation as expressed through the art of making love."-http://akashom.blogspot.com/2006_01_19
I can't tell if they're trying to be literal or not, but I'm pretty sure that actual semen on your spine isn't a good thing.
Supposedly very nice and means they can keep going without the 5-20 minute rest period that most guys need after coming (Oh, yeah and all that spiritural jazz too). Happened to a guy I was with once. He was very confused but he recovered pretty quick with a "Hey, still hard. Lets keep going."